Welcome to another edition of the Conversations that Matter podcast. I am pleased today to have some

guests with me, some very special guests from the Ars Politica podcast, which is a pretty new podcast.

I would encourage you to subscribe to it and the two

co-host of that are Thomas Accord who is the headmaster of a classical school

and Stephen Wolf who's done some writing for sovereign nations.

Many of you are probably familiar with sovereign nations.

And guys, I'd just like to thank you so much for being on

and being willing to talk about a subject that many Christians

are having a hard time navigating.

Yeah, thanks for having a son.

Pleasure.

Yeah.

So I want to start out with something that I heard from you on, I think it was your last

podcast or perhaps the podcast before I'm not

sure if you've released one since them but it was on a theology or I should say a philosophy

of place and you articulated some things in that podcast,

so there was about an hour,

that I thought were just very well stated.

There are things that I believed that I have,

I think, articulated in different ways,

but not quite as clearly as you guys didn't you work through it

Sequentially well just just orderly and I really appreciate that that helps people and right after that we have this big blow up about nationalism and I see these

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