El Grito has been canceled in Chicago because ice is being sent in.

And so this is a Mexican Independence Day Festival in Grant Park.

They're shutting it down because they're concerned about widespread ice raids, which is just weird for a lot of reasons.

But that's not the principal issue we're here to discuss.

We're here to discuss the deployment of the National Guard in Chicago and other cities, and whether it is fascistic takeover or

the salvation of these people plagued by crime. We got a great panel here today. Our resident

liberals back in town, who are you? What do you think? I'm Pisco, Pisco Lidia on Twitter. I'm an attorney, and I talk a lot about what the Trump administration is doing, and I obviously take the position that these deployments, especially of military officials, the National Guard are not just, in the most case, is illegal, but also against our history and tradition and the Constitution. Right on. And to tell him he's wrong. My name's Joel Levin.

I pastor at church in Georgetown, Texas. It's about 45 minutes north of Austin, Texas. And then I do

some streams, right response ministries on YouTube. I was just assuming you were to disagree with

them because that's kind of the point of show. But, you know, who knows, who knows. And then we brought in this guy from the UK. Actually, we talked about it the other day with Connor that your perspective might be interesting considering you come from an outside country, though you do have a more conservative bent. Yeah, well, my country is currently in the grips of anarcho tyranny, and I actually, I might end up agreeing with you because I want to free the National Guard up so they can come over and help us with our problem. But yeah, Connor Tomlinson, host of Thomason talks on YouTube, writer for Courage Media, and general troublemaker and hopefully friend of the show, considering you keep having me. So there's a, we'll just kick this one off. And I will not be separated from this, I am from the south side of Chicago city proper and grew up in ways that I don't think people should grow up.

But to be fair, I will stress this.

As bad as it was the crime that we dealt with in Chicago, the world has been worse for a very, very long time.

And things are still pretty good relatively,

not that anyone should tolerate gang violence. But I will begin the debate specifically on the

issue of Chicago. And I will speak about how Chicago deals with crime and Trump's plan for

sending in the National Guard. And then I will ask you to opine.

So there are two strategies being employed that have been, I should say there's a principal

strategy that's been employed throughout Chicago for the past several decades, particularly

in my neighborhood and surrounding neighborhoods.

That has been done by the Democrats and the liberals.

Donald Trump is

offering up a new strategy, which is to deploy the National Guard. In the area I grew up, we had a place

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