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The Interview

National General Secretary of India's BJP, Ram Madhav

The Interview

BBC

News, Government, Politics

4.3537 Ratings

🗓️ 1 June 2020

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

In some countries the coronavirus pandemic appears to have enhanced national unity and solidarity, in others it’s exposed deep fault lines. In India the crisis has hit the poorest migrant workers disproportionately hard; it’s also deepened tensions between the Hindu majority and Muslim minority. Is that the fault of the Hindu nationalist BJP government? HARDtalk’s Stephen Sackur speaks to the National General Secretary of the BJP Ram Madhav. Is Prime Minister Modi stoking communal tensions even in a national emergency? Photo: BJP National General Secretary Ram Madhav Credit: Getty Images

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0:00.0

You're listening to a podcast from the BBC World Service. This is Hard Talk with me, Stephen Sacker.

0:07.0

Thanks for downloading this edition of the program. I do hope you enjoy it.

0:12.7

Welcome to Hard Talk on the BBC World Service with me, Stephen Sacker. My guest today is a prominent public voice and face of the ruling BJP Party in India.

0:23.7

Ram Madav has a long track record of activist involvement with the Hindu nationalist movement.

0:30.2

Before taking up his BJP post six years ago, he was a member of the national executive of the RSS,

0:36.7

the controversial grassroots organization

0:39.2

condemned by its critics as a hotbed of extremism and Hindu supremacism.

0:45.4

The BJP has enjoyed extraordinary political success in recent years.

0:49.8

Prime Minister Narendra Modi was re-elected with a thumping majority last year.

0:54.7

But his government has been dogged by accusations that it's stoking anti-Muslim sentiment and even violence.

1:01.9

And now, India, disfigured by rising communal tensions, faces a massive new challenge, the spread of coronavirus.

1:10.2

Mr Modi plunged the country into a sudden

1:13.2

and draconian lockdown in March, which limited the spread of the virus. But now the infection

1:18.8

rate is rising, and millions of India's poorest migrant workers have been left jobless and vulnerable.

1:24.9

Far from bringing the country together, the virus has perhaps exposed the

1:29.2

depth of religious and economic division should the blame be put at Mr Modi's door. Well, Ram Madav

1:36.3

joins me now from Delhi. Welcome to Hard Talk. Thank you. Let us begin with the coronavirus

1:42.1

situation in your country. Officials in your government have

1:45.9

proclaimed the success of your lockdown policy, have pointed to a relatively low number of deaths,

1:52.3

but right now we see the curve, the infection rate curve in India, seems to be rising and rising

1:59.4

alarmingly. Do you think your government has been complacent?

2:02.5

We are 15% of the worst population. Yet, if you look at the rate of the affected people in India,

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