Nathan Rabin and Benjamin Nugent, author of American Nerd

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Jesse Thorn

Society & Culture

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🗓️ 9 July 2013

⏱️ 64 minutes

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You'd be hard pressed to find two music groups with more divergent sounds than the jam band Phish and the horrorcore rap duo Insane Clown Posse. But they've got something in common. Each of them has a deeply passionate following, and each of them has deeply, deeply passionate haters. When Nathan Rabin tried to write a critic's look at these bands' worlds, he found himself sucked in. Then later Jesse talks to Benjamin Nugent about another group of American sub-culture. D&D players, historical reenactors, ham radio enthusiasts. You know, nerds. Ben is the author of American Nerd: The Story of My People. His 2007 book looks at what the word actually means.

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0:00.0	Hey, I'm Ellen from Jacksonville, Florida.
0:02.2	Hey, I'm Cody from Emory, Alberta.
0:04.4	I'm Eric from Nashville.
0:06.0	Both I with Dusty Thorn has produced independently
0:08.4	and supported by listeners like you and me.
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0:15.9	I'm Jesse Thorn.
0:16.9	You'd be hard-pressed to find two bands
0:19.2	with more divergent sounds than the jam band fish
0:22.7	and the horror core rap duo in St. Clown, Posse.
0:27.2	But they actually have something in common.
0:29.5	Each of them has a deeply passionate following
0:33.3	and conversely, deeply, deeply passionate haters.
0:39.0	Music journalist Nathan Rabin immersed himself
0:42.0	in both bands' worlds and the process changed him.
0:46.0	He kind of figured out the value of unconditional love.
0:50.7	I feel like in her culture we have this skepticism
0:54.0	about people being too excited about things.
0:56.0	I feel like there's a small list
0:58.4	of things that decent, respectful people
1:00.3	are allowed to be over the moon about.
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