Nate Hagens: "Episode 100 - The Great Simplification" (Interviewed by Kate Raworth)
The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens
Nate Hagens
4.8 • 553 Ratings
🗓️ 6 December 2023
⏱️ 129 minutes
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Summary
On this special 100th episode, Nate is interviewed by his friend and colleague in the metacrisis space, Kate Raworth. The conversation is a reflection on the past two years of podcasting – and how Nate's worldview has evolved because of it. What fundamental concepts could help us better understand the trends happening around us and the potential futures they point to? With so many moving pieces, how can we begin to create a coherent story of the world around us and - even more difficult - start preparing responses to coming challenges? What should individuals aware of these converging crises be thinking about in order to prepare themselves, their families, and their communities for a materially smaller future?
About Nate Hagens
Nate Hagens is the Director of The Institute for the Study of Energy & Our Future (ISEOF) an organization focused on educating and preparing society for the coming cultural transition. Allied with leading ecologists, energy experts, politicians and systems thinkers, ISEOF assembles road-maps and off-ramps for how human societies can adapt to lower throughput lifestyles. Nate holds a Masters Degree in Finance with Honors from the University of Chicago and a Ph.D. in Natural Resources from the University of Vermont. He teaches an Honors course, Reality 101, at the University of Minnesota.
About Kate Raworth
Kate Raworth describes herself as a renegade economist focused on making economics fit for 21st century realities. She is the creator of the Doughnut of social and planetary boundaries, and co-founder of Doughnut Economics Action Lab, based on her best-selling book Doughnut Economics: 7 Ways to Think Like a 21st Century Economist. Kate is a Senior Associate at Oxford University's Environmental Change Institute, where she teaches on the Masters in Environmental Change and Management. She is also Professor of Practice at Amsterdam University of Applied Sciences. She is a member of the Club of Rome and currently serves on the World Health Organisation Council on the Economics of Health for All.
Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/GocuMZX3hIs
Learn more, and show notes: https://www.thegreatsimplification.com/episode/100-nate-hagens
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Greetings. Welcome to episode 100. What? 100 episodes this time flew by. This has been the most |
| 0:11.5 | challenging and the most rewarding thing I have ever done hosting this podcast. Challenging |
| 0:17.6 | because we're covering a lot of issues, not just one. |
| 0:21.8 | And invariably these issues infringe on people's understanding or belief or ideology. |
| 0:30.2 | And it's difficult to host a multi-topic podcast. |
| 0:34.7 | Rewarding because I feel less alone. |
| 0:37.4 | I feel motivated by the hundreds of thousands of |
| 0:40.5 | humans around the world that are wanting to learn more about this story. And that ultimately is |
| 0:47.6 | the work is we're trying to help more people normalize conversations about how everything fits together in a system science |
| 0:57.8 | sense. It is threatening. It is daunting. It is scary some of the information that we're |
| 1:05.9 | presenting. But I'm not selling fear. I'm trying to sell understanding. Actually, I'm not trying to sell anything at all. |
| 1:14.0 | All of our content is free. We've turned all monetization off on social media. We, of course, would |
| 1:22.5 | accept and do need donations, tax deductible to the Institute for the study of energy in our future, |
| 1:30.3 | but it is my belief that anyone in the world that has internet could access this for free. |
| 1:36.8 | There's a lot planned going forward. I do want to have more podcast dealing with responses as opposed to just the problems. |
| 1:47.2 | As things get more threatening, I'm hoping that I don't fly too close to the sun and get burned, |
| 1:53.9 | but I'm all in on passing the baton to more humans working on this. |
| 1:59.6 | I have asked for episode 100, a friend of mine who works |
| 2:04.1 | in a related space to interview me. Without further ado, here is episode 100 of the Great |
| 2:11.1 | Simplification. You're listening to The Great Simplification with Kate Rayworth. That's me. |
| 2:19.6 | On this show, we try to explore and simplify what's happening with energy, the economy, the environment and our society. |
| 2:29.3 | Together with scientists, experts and leaders, this show is about understanding the bird's eye view of how |
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