This is the Cato Daily Podcast for Saturday, September 2nd,

2023. I'm Caleb Brown.

Thankfully, National Conservatives appear largely unable to coalesce around a shared right-wing vision of a more intrusive government, even as Republicans

are seeming to welcome it.

Now freedom conservatives have arrived to provide a statement on behalf of a relatively less intrusive government.

Stephanie Slade follows the range of thinking within the new right.

We spoke earlier this week.

Is it your view that national conservatives, such as they are, had a moment, will have a moment, missed

out on a moment, or how do you characterize it?

I think there was a moment, especially after everybody sort of emerged of their shock

following the 2016 election and Donald Trump winning, when there was this attempt to build

a sort of intellectual superstructure around the Trump movement and

that has come to be known as National Conservatism.

So they launched these conferences and they launched new journals and magazines and

new advocacy organizations. new

advocacy organizations and and whatnot and and there there has been a moment there

the question though is is whether they're correctly captured the forces that brought that swept

Donald Trump into office and I don't think for the most part I mean I think they

they they're what we've seen is initially there was a focus on

the net cons on economic nationalism and economic policy

and free trade is bad and we need a muscular government

that is willing to sort of intervene in the economy in various ways.

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