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This is a global player original podcast. We're going to take you inside the National Conservative Conference.

This is going on in London right now. And Douglas Murray was one of the speakers, and this is just a taster of what he had to say about nationalism.

I see no reason why every other country in the world should be prevented from feeling pride in itself because the Germans mucked up twice in a century.

Yeah, mucked up an interesting description of the origins of the First and Second World War

and all that flowed from it. But if you think that was the high point of perhaps some weird views that were expressed at the National Conservative Conference, no, there are plenty others.

Welcome to the Newsagents.

The Newsagents.

It's John.

It's Emily.

And it's Lewis.

And you were enjoying the National Conservative Conference these past day and a half.

I was the newsagents emissary, the official ambassador.

Did you have official diplomatic standing there?

Not quite, as we can perhaps come on to discuss.

Look, we'll start by saying that that like, you know what, I really

like, and it's a slightly unfashionable thing maybe in Westminster to say, I really like ideology.

I really like politicians with ideology. I think ideology and politics gives order to the world.

I like politicians and politics that is strongly felt and where people really have something

to say.

And I have covered over the last of 10 years or so,

one of the things I've taken a great interest in is the sort of slow intellectual evolution of the British political right

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