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Trust me. The podcast about cults, extreme belief, and the abuse of power from two suckers who've actually experienced it. I am Lulu Blanc.

And I'm Megan Elizabeth.

And today is part two of our interview with Natasha Malin, author of The First 50, Asaga of Backseats Bedrooms, Look at Points and Dive Bars.

She's also a survivor of a group that she calls a therapy cult.

In this week's episode, we're going to discuss the trauma bonding that happened within the group.

How the messed up thing is that the program was actually working until it wasn't.

And how maintaining even a few connections to the outside world can be instrumental in shaking you out of the trance.

And we'll hear all about how that worked for her and how she actually left the group.

So before we get into it, Megan won't you tell me what the cultist thing that happened to this week was?

Oh gosh, there's so much.

But I think I'm going to go with me trying to find some youth serums.

Okay.

So the cult of youth is really, really permeating my brain and consciousness and decision-making skills.

And God, you know, serums is expensive.

It is.

It's really expensive.

And so you really have to be in a bad place to spend some of that money.

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