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Sounds True: Insights at the Edge

Nataly Kogan: Happier Now

Sounds True: Insights at the Edge

Tami Simon

Religion, Religion & Spirituality

4.61.8K Ratings

🗓️ 1 May 2018

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

Nataly Kogan is a public speaker, author, and the founder of the training organization Happier. With Sounds True, she has published the book Happier Now: How to Stop Chasing Perfection and Embrace Everyday Moments (Even the Difficult Ones). In this edition of Insights at the Edge, Tami Simon speaks with Nataly about redefining happiness not as a state where we experience no negative feelings whatsoever, but as a skill we must constantly hone. Nataly shares some of her life story, including her childhood experiences as a refugee and why she spent much of her life chasing the unattainable goal of "I'll be happy when . . ." Tami and Nataly also discuss the benefits of maintaining a regular gratitude practice, then walk listeners through a five-minute "happiness workout" that can be done on the spot. Finally, they talk about how personally fulfilling creative activities can actually make us more productive and help us practice the everyday skills of happiness. (67 minutes)

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This program is brought to you by sounds true.com.

0:04.0

At sounds true.com you can find hundreds of downloadable audio

0:08.0

learning programs, plus books, music, videos, and online courses, and events.

0:14.3

At sounds true.com, we think of ourselves

0:17.2

as a trusted partner on the spiritual journey,

0:20.2

offering diverse, in-depth, and life-changing wisdom.

0:24.0

Sounds True.com, guest is Natalie Kogan.

0:44.3

Natalie is an author, speaker, and the founder of Happier, a training organization.

0:51.6

Her work has been featured in hundreds of media outlets including the New York

0:56.2

Times, the Wall Street Journal, TEDX Boston, and Dr. Oz.

1:01.4

Which sounds true, Natalie Kogan has written a new book called Happier Now, how to stop chasing perfection and

1:10.2

embrace everyday moments, even the difficult ones.

1:14.0

In her debut book, Happier Now, she teaches readers

1:18.0

how to stop searching for some elusive, big happy in the future and start finding more joy in everyday moments.

1:28.0

In this episode of Insights at the Edge, Natalie and I spoke about how she redefined happiness, not as a state of ultimate positivity,

1:39.0

devoid of difficult emotions, but as a skill we can all develop.

1:44.8

We talked about the health benefits of practicing gratitude, and how we can even practice gratitude

1:51.8

when we feel terrible, and it doesn't seem genuine. We talked

1:55.9

about the myth of I'll be happy when and how knowing how our brains work can

2:02.2

actually help us deconstruct this myth.

2:05.0

Together we also did a five minute happiness workout

2:10.0

and we explored how rest and creative activities can actually end up making us more productive.

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