Kathy. Yes. Will you tell me one of your deepest darkest fears? No

That's embarrassing. Okay, okay. Here's what we're gonna do on the count of three

Let's just both say a fear out loud. Okay, ready? One two three. I live in constant fear that I'm letting you down

And that you will be disappointed in me. I think that's something to do with my parents, but I can't be sure

Also birds wow look at us

From WNYC studios you're listening to Nancy with your host Tobin Lowe and Kathy too

So Kath yes, there is another WNYC podcast out there that I super love because it's kind of unlike anything out there

Is it ten things that scare me?

In fact it is because I also love that show isn't it great? Yeah first of all

Super bite-sized it's around five minutes long and in each episode you hear about one person's fears number one

Dear number two thinking too much about things that scare me

Number three underwater wiffle balls some fears are funny some are more serious

Having my special needs son be able to hire good attendants the man

I once on the subway eating a full tub of cream cheese

Like just out of the tub and you got to hear a little bit about the why I think dear are really pretty

But they just have these tiny little like mouse brains. We're always doing the same mistakes

That's what I think like I think we go from Salem which trials to McCarthyism to the the anti-AIDS stuff in the 80s

That I live through to this now and I just am like we just I just I'm waiting for Nazi Germany again

So the reason we're bringing up ten things today is because we recently listened to an episode

We loved it's with Natalie Diaz who is a queer Mojave poet former professional basketball player and a 2018 MacArthur genius

So today we're gonna play Natalie's episode of ten things that scare me and then Kathy you're gonna sit down and have a conversation with her

Number one I'm afraid of like there's a certain hour that comes in the evening because I have anxiety

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