Nat & Alex Wolff Talk New Album, Banana Smoothie, Soft Kissing Hour and Acting

Zach Sang Show

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Music, Tv & Film

4.6 • 685 Ratings

🗓️ 14 January 2026

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

The Wolff brothers (also once upon a time known as The Naked Brothers) return to the couch to discuss their long awaited self-titled album. Wild to think that Zach and Nat and Alex first met a whopping 18 years ago, so the rapport is set and a healthy roasting is delivered (largely from Alex) throughout.

But they also dig into this new collection, which is both a vulnerable look back and a point of reflection. Additionally they discuss how playing Leonard Cohen (Alex) and Spiral Stairs, the drummer of 90s slacker heroes Pavement (Nat), in the films So Long Marianne and Pavements, respectively, influenced their songwriting, the stories behind “Backup Plan,” “Candyspeak,” and working with Billie Eilish on “Soft Kissing Hour.”

Plus, the toxicity of child stardom, banana smoothies, fedoras, the genius of Cher, Mark Wahlberg, Cameron Winter, The Rock, Jumanji, cold plunging, the importance of living life unselfconsciously and out of the public eye, and so much more.

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0:00.0	Hey, beautiful human before we dive into today's episode, I'm excited to tell you that's
0:09.2	presented by HBO's industry.
0:11.0	If you haven't been watching Industry, season four just dropped on HBO Max, and it is
0:15.9	absolutely wild.
0:17.1	The show follows a cut-throat world of the London finance scene where ambition, power, and money collide in the most intense ways.
0:24.4	I'm going to tell you more about it later on in the episode.
0:26.9	I'll get you up to speed on what's going on in season four.
0:30.0	So please stay tuned.
0:31.2	But just know that this is the most gripping season yet.
0:35.4	You need to be watching season four of HBO's industry. It's now streaming Sundays at 9 p.m. on HBO Max. Seriously, trust me, you don't want to miss it. My beautiful human, Nat and Alex Swipper here. This feels right. This feels much. We heard Liz Skillies and Santa Claus came before us. Yeah, they were guest number one in the new space.
0:56.0	It's hard to follow Santa. Yeah, Santa's a hard one to be the sequel of. Yeah, but this is the right thing to do. And we have a great, we have a beautiful album to unpack. And it's been a long time. It has been a long time. I love you so much, Zach. I miss you guys.
1:09.6	One, thank you.
1:10.6	And two, like, maybe probably people don't know, but, like, I, we met each other maybe
1:16.5	18 years ago.
1:18.7	Wait, is that possible?
1:19.9	Yeah, it's 100% possible.
1:21.5	We met at Hershey Park.
1:23.7	Like.
1:23.9	So that's about, we met each other, like, before Somber was born.
1:27.1	Without a shadow of it down
1:28.8	wait it was 18 years ago it actually may have been even like 19 years ago it was when I was
1:36.4	nine you were a baby dude nine years old yeah and you Zach held you I think he held you in his
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