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Hello, creatives.

I'm Joanna Penn.

And this is episode number 571 of the podcast. And it is Sunday the 29th of August, 2021 as I record this.

And I can't believe it's September this week. Like, how fast has this year gone by? It's crazy.

Anyway, in today's show, I'm talking to New Zealander, Edwin McCray, about narrative design in the gaming

industry. And even if you're not into gaming, I'm personally not a gamer myself. It's fascinating

to hear how storytelling works in a more interactive environment. And we also talk about how

this will become more important. And as we move towards Web 3.0,

the experience economy and different ways of storytelling in the Metaverse.

And you can listen to recent episode 568 for more on that.

So that's coming up in the interview section.

In publishing and book marketing news and interesting things, Seth Godin had an interesting

article on his blog this week titled The Inevitable Decline of Fully Open Platforms.

And he says, quote, too much curation stifles creativity, opposing viewpoints and useful conversation.

But no curation inevitably turns a platform over to quacks, denialists, scammers and trolls.

Over time, the value of a uniform, a brand or a platform is defined by the worst people who wear it or use it.

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