Napoleon in Fact & Fiction

Arts & Ideas

BBC

Society & Culture

4.2 • 599 Ratings

🗓️ 21 February 2018

⏱️ 45 minutes

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From Napoleon impersonators, his image in caricature and ballads, to a play which asks what if he didn't die in exile - presenter Anne McElvoy is joined by actor and director Kathryn Hunter, biographer Michael Broers, historians Oskar Cox Jensen and Laura O'Brien and journalist Nabila Ramdani who looks at how Napoleon is viewed in 21st century France.

Napoleon Disrobed - a play performed by Told By an Idiot which is based on the novel The Death of Napoleon by Simon Leys - is on tour visiting Plymouth, London, Birmingham and Scarborough. Michael Broers has just published the second instalment of his biography which is called Napoleon The Spirit of The Age. Oskar Cox Jensen has published Napoleon and British Song. Laura O'Brien has published The Republican Line: Caricature and French Republican Identity (Manchester: Manchester University Press, 2015)

Producer: Torquil MacLeod

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0:32.1	Hello, I'm Anne McHawoy.
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0:55.6	this is the BBC hello The opening bars of Beethoven's Third Symphony, a work that the composer originally dedicated to Napoleon. He saw him as an
1:29.4	embodiment of the democratic ideals of the French Revolution, only to revise both his opinion
1:34.9	and the dedication when Bonaparte declared himself emperor in 1804. Nearly 200 years after his death,
1:43.7	Napoleon remains a figure who captures the popular imagination.
1:47.9	He's been portrayed as both a hero and a villain in history books, in popular songs, plays, films and caricatures.
1:56.7	Over the next 45 minutes, my guests and I will hold many of these representations up to the light.
2:02.6	We want to discern what they can tell us about Bonaparte himself and the ways in which he's been reimagined by different generations.
2:10.6	I'm joined by the historians Michael Brewer's, Laura O'Brien and Oscar Cox Jensen, the journalist Nabila Ramdani and theatre director Catherine Hunter.
2:20.5	Welcome to you all and I would like to begin if I could by getting a snapshot of the different, perhaps contradictory aspects of Napoleon.
2:28.8	So could I ask you to suggest three words that describe Bonaparte as you see him.
2:35.9	Laura, I'm going to start with iconic, legendary and mediated.
2:42.5	Ooh, interesting.
2:43.8	We're going to dig into that one later.
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