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Real Vision: Finance & Investing

Napier and Johnson: The Money Riddle

Real Vision: Finance & Investing

Real Vision

Business News, News, Investing, Business

4.11.1K Ratings

🗓️ 19 December 2020

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Summary

For the past decade, Russell Napier has correctly called for disinflation, dissenting with the conventional wisdom that inflation is on horizon. Yet he has changed his mind, and in this conversation with Brent Johnson, CEO of Santiago Capital, Napier explains why he believes the inflationary tides, so long delayed, may soon arrive on the shores of currencies such as the dollar and the euro. Napier argues that fiscal authorities are, via macroprudential regulation, essentially compelling commercial banks to lend and are also requiring them to hold unattractive assets such as negative yielding debt. This new force, Napier continues, will succeed where quantitative easing (QE) has failed in expanding commercial bank balance sheets. Johnson and Napier analyze how this new potential regime will impact affect pensioners, students, and savers as well as how it will shape the destiny of every asset class ranging from equities to Treasurys, from European bank debt to currencies, and from mortgage-backed securities to fine art. . For more charts, click here: https://rvtv.io/3lsOdZw and https://rvtv.io/36BS7cC. Key learnings: Rapid growth of the money supply coupled with low inventories could push the U.S. into a reflationary whirlwind. Napier has an inflation target of 4% for the OECD because he believes macroprudential regulation will compel large financial institutions to lend and hold dubious assets to an unprecedented degree. This view is not necessarily bearish for the dollar, nor for emerging market (EM) currencies, which might prove more resilient than many anticipate. But, it does spell trouble for the Euro, which is already in a bad way. Recorded on November 11, 2020 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Well, hello everyone.

0:02.0

This is Brent Johnson from Santiago Capital and I'm back here on

0:17.3

Real Vision and I just have a real privilege today. I have the opportunity to speak with

0:22.0

somebody who I've followed for a very long time and I've communicated with him a few times over the years over email, but I've never actually spoken to him before.

0:30.0

And I just can't tell you how excited I am and how much I've been looking forward to it.

0:34.8

And so with that I'd like to welcome Russell Napier to Real Vision.

0:38.0

Welcome, Russell.

0:39.0

Thanks, Brad.

0:40.0

You know, one of the reasons that this is kind of such a tree for me is I have to say you know I read a lot of research I follow a lot of different people listen to their interviews

0:47.2

But out of everybody that I kind of follow on a consistent basis you're probably my favorite. So I'm a fan.

0:53.2

I just got to tell you that right up front

0:54.6

so that there's no hiding it.

0:57.0

And I think one of the reasons I find you interesting

1:02.1

and like your stuff is I'm not really sure what to call you you know you're a

1:04.4

strategist you're an analyst you're a portfolio manager you're an author you're an entrepreneur like and you're

1:09.5

Scotsman so what's the right thing what's the right way what right way to refer to you?

1:14.1

Well that's good it so the first thing you mustn't do is call me a

1:16.5

Scotsman because you'll get all the Scotsman really upset so I come from there

1:19.8

Belfast and know that I heard and but I have lived in Scotland for nearly 30 years.

1:26.1

So it may be wearing off, but I've got friends who are a Scottish who get really upset

1:30.0

when people call me a Scotsman.

1:31.2

I don't find it offensive but they do so.

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