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Hey there, folks. Welcome to the program. My name's Eric. Sir named Metaxus. It's the Eric

Mattaxas show. So I'll be your host. And I get to talk to very interesting people. For example,

my guest right now is Naomi

Wolf. Naomi, welcome back. Thanks so much for having me, Eric. There is a plethora of subjects

to speak with you about. And so I don't know where we want to start.

I want to tell people, first of all, your new book out is called Facing the Beast, Courage, Faith, and Resistance in a New Dark Age.

And I want to say, Naomi, you are more thoughtful than most, and it's one of the reasons that you're so worth reading on your

substack and this book, this new book, you bring a lot of nuance to things that are not often

nuanced enough. We have very black and white things, and some things are black and white. There's good and evil,

but I just want to say I appreciate that about you. And some things are black and white. There's good and evil. But I just want to say,

I appreciate that about you. And I guess the question is, what shall we speak about first? Because

there are so many terrible things happening. So where do we begin?

So much to say. I mean, I guess we should just address the fact that we're being hustled right to the edge of World War III. But I think this is related to what I want to talk about, which is I think we're being hustled to the edge of World War III, like wherever you fall on the Israel-Palestine conflict, the way we're being

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