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Folks, I'm talking to Naomi Wolfe, the new book, The Bodies of Others,

The New Authoritarians, COVID-19, and the War Against the Human,

A Brilliant Thesis, and you really pull it all together magnificently, Naomi.

We were just talking about something and you were making a point about what happened in

Germany even before the Nazis consolidated power and Hitler becomes chancellor in early 33.

We continue making that point because it's fascinating.

Sure, I mean, it's heartbreaking.

I will. I'll just say, my tribe on the elite left, our fatal flaw is that as you pointed out,

we think we're good people. Therefore, if one of ours, like Biden or Harris or Dr. Fauci,

does monstrous things, it can't really be happening because we're good people.

And that is a fatal flaw of self-reflection.

But yeah, I was saying that, you know, I wrote an essay about this actually, it's incorporated in the book.

I get these emails and direct messages all the time from people saying, oh, Naomi, you're so brave.

I wish I could agree with you. I wish I could stand up like you.

But of course, I can't because my boss will get mad at me or I'll have some professional blowback.

These are not people who are going to go hungry if they stand up and tell the truth.

These are people who, you know, might have to find a new, high-paying job or might have to

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