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On the Media

Naomi Klein's Trip to the Mirror World

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🗓️ 7 February 2024

⏱️ 17 minutes

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A wide-ranging exploration of doubling in our lives, culture, and politics.

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0:00.0

This is the On the Media Midweek podcast. I'm Brooke Gladstone.

0:04.0

Last fall, the book everyone was talking about was Naomi Klein's doppelganger, a trip into the mirror world.

0:11.0

In it, she described how she, Naomi Klein, had been confused with

0:15.5

Naomi Wolf for much of her career. Wolf rose to prominence with the book The

0:21.4

Beauty Myth in the 90s, establishing herself as a

0:24.4

best-selling feminist writer. Klein on the other hand wrote acclaimed critiques of

0:29.7

capitalism such as No Logo in the shock doctrine.

0:34.0

The confusion of the two writers incessant on social media escalated when Wolf became a peddler

0:40.4

of COVID-19 conspiracies. But recently in an amusing turnabout, Wolf discovered that a fellow

0:48.4

anti-Vaxer was spreading a conspiracy theory about her.

0:53.4

I am not a deep stable operative.

0:55.4

Naomi Wolf.

0:56.7

But the fact that I have to say that to anyone

1:00.1

is so regrettable and insulting and offensive and defamatory, you know, and frankly exhausting

1:12.4

because I've done nothing for the last two and a half years

1:14.6

but get kicked out of my former life as a well-known feminist commentator on the left

1:19.0

for telling the truth about women being injured by the MR. R. D. Meanwhile, Naomi Klein is so often mistaken for her

1:27.3

conspiracist counterpart than in the interview she did just before hours

1:31.2

last fall, the TV host called her by Wolf's name.

1:35.8

It's so unrelenting that someone tweeted a rhyme that became something of a meme.

1:41.0

If the Naomi be Klein, you're doing fine. If the Naomi be Klein, you're doing fine.

1:44.0

If the Naomi be Wolf, oh buddy, oof.

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