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Brian Lehrer: A Daily Politics Podcast

Naomi Klein on the 'Screen' New Deal

Brian Lehrer: A Daily Politics Podcast

WNYC Studios

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4.4675 Ratings

🗓️ 20 May 2020

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

She pioneered the way we think about disaster economics. Today, the author of Shock Doctrine explains who's profiting from the new telecommuting surge.

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0:00.0

It's Brian Lehrer, and this is my daily politics podcast from WNYC Studios.

0:10.5

It's Wednesday, May 20th.

0:14.9

As many workers, students, and even some healthcare professionals have begun working remotely these last few months,

0:21.6

technology has been making the once inconceivable possible.

0:25.4

But a controversy is brewing about after the pandemic emergency subsides.

0:30.4

Here's Governor Andrew Cuomo at a press conference on May 6th, waxing, gee whiz, about a high-tech future.

0:36.9

On a larger scale, how do we really use new technology in the economy of tomorrow?

0:44.6

And that's the lesson that we're all learning, right?

0:47.4

Work from home, telemedicine, teleeducation.

0:51.3

It's all about technology and a better use of technology and really incorporating

0:57.0

the lessons into that. So pandemic, the pandemic, has presented itself as an opportunity for big tech

1:05.9

to integrate more completely into Americans' lives. Could the temporary work-from-home measures

1:11.5

become permanent? How about the schooling from-home measures? And is this good or bad for humanity?

1:18.2

Well, joining me now is Naomi Klein, senior correspondent for The Intercept, author of many very

1:24.6

influential books, including The Shock Doctrine and On Fire, the Burning Case for a Green New Deal.

1:31.3

She's the Gloria Steinem-endowed chair in Media Culture and Feminist Studies at Rutgers

1:36.1

and co-founder of the Leap, a climate justice organization.

1:40.8

Hi, Naomi, welcome back to WNYC.

1:43.7

Hi, Brian. Great to be with you. And I think maybe the sound that

1:47.4

you hear out the window is, is New York parents screaming at the prospect that they have to

1:55.8

continue homeschooling indefinitely into the future as part of a grand experiment.

2:03.7

Right.

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