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🗓️ 2 November 2023
⏱️ 37 minutes
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0:00.0 | Naomi where's your head at right now? |
0:04.0 | Not in my book I'll say I finished the book tour for |
0:08.0 | for Doppelganger kind of just at the moment that that this surge of extreme violence was exploding in Israel and Palestine. |
0:18.0 | And so I sort of forget, did I write a book, but I'm happy to talk about Doppelganger if I can remember what's in it. |
0:25.5 | But yeah, like you, my head has been in another part of the world. |
0:29.3 | All of us, and what's the predominant emotion you feel about the war? |
0:34.6 | Devastated to be witnessing this decimation and loss of life. I feel like the world has gone |
0:42.1 | completely mad. |
0:44.7 | I've been focused on calls for a ceasefire which is not a I thought was not a radical demand |
0:51.5 | but but we've seen it be very deliberately equated with surrender. It is not that, it's never |
0:58.1 | been that. It is just a recognition that if the goal is to defeat Hamas leveling Gaza is something totally |
1:07.2 | different and you know I think the goal of this is is is quite clearly to make |
1:12.2 | Gaza unlivable. |
1:14.0 | I've just been calling for a ceasefire |
1:17.0 | with all my might, but feeling very weak, |
1:19.3 | like I don't have much might, which I don't. |
1:22.0 | That's author Naomi Klein. |
1:26.0 | Her latest book is titled Doppelganger, a trip into the Mirror World. |
1:30.0 | And I'm Brian Selder. |
1:32.0 | Welcome to Vanity Fair's inside the Hive. Today, we're going |
1:36.1 | inside the information wars, both raging in the Middle East and in the United States. |
1:46.0 | Naomi referenced the nearly one month long Israel Hamas war, and she's been a long-time board member of the group Jewish Voice for Peace. |
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