Naomi Klein on conspiracy theorists, her doppelgänger, and the malign power of influencers

The Bunker

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News, Politics, Society & Culture, Government

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🗓️ 13 September 2023

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Being mistaken for Naomi Wolf was once a joke for acclaimed author Naomi Klein. But following the global pandemic, her doppelgänger embraced conspiracy theories and was welcomed into alt-right spheres. In an effort to understand the woman she was often mistaken for — Naomi Klein journeyed down the rabbit hole into a world of misinformation, emotional manipulation and a mirror world not quite like our own. Jude Rogers speaks to Naomi Klein, the author of No Logo, The Shock Doctrine and her latest book Doppelganger: A Trip into the Mirror World in The Bunker. “Social media is like reading the graffiti about you on the bathroom wall. And I've read a lot of that graffiti confusing me with Naomi Wolf.” “The corporate world has produced a playing field so rigged against consumers that mistrust and paranoia have flourished.” "My friends ask: why am I listening to Steve Bannon? And I say because he's listening to us." BOOK LINK https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/453962/doppelganger-by-klein-naomi/9780241621301 www.patreon.com/bunkercast Written and presented by Jude Rogers. Producer: Liam Tait and Kasia Tomasiewicz. Audio editor: Robin Leeburn. Managing editor: Jacob Jarvis. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production. Instagram | Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:00.0	Hello and welcome to the bunker. I'm Jude Rogers. Being mistaken for someone else is a peculiar thing. It may have happened to you in real life or online. But what if it happens repeatedly,
1:16.2	insistently, and then other people start to think you were a very different person. A person
1:21.5	with very different ideas, many of them damaging and dangerous.
1:25.0	This isn't the plot of a thriller, but the real life experience of one of North America's best
1:29.9	known politics and culture writers of the last 25 years, Naomi Klein.
1:34.0	Her books include no logo, the brilliant dissection of how branding and consumer capitalism was,
1:39.4	and still is, warping our world, and the shock doctrine doctrine which explored the idea of disaster
1:44.4	capitalism years before the governments of Trump and Johnson. Her new book
1:48.2	Doppelganger and picks what has been like to be confused with another Naomi
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