Naomi Klein: Let Them Drown
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London Review of Books
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🗓️ 1 June 2016
⏱️ 87 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the London Review of Books podcast. For our best subscription offers, visit lrb.me.combe forward slash pod. |
| 0:08.4 | Thank you, Shami. It is an honor to be introduced by you. Thank you for all of your courageous and wonderful work. |
| 0:16.6 | I also want to thank Jude Kelly. It's so good to be back at the South Bank Center. |
| 0:22.1 | And Jacqueline Rose for extending the original invitation. And I wish to acknowledge that with us here tonight |
| 0:27.9 | is Miriam Saeed, who shared her life with Edward, was his great collaborator and carries |
| 0:33.0 | his work forward in so many ways. The focus of my talk tonight is the climate crisis and the central |
| 0:41.3 | role that systems that rank the relative value of human beings, including but not limited to |
| 0:50.4 | white supremacy, patriarchy, and orientalentalism have played in deepening that crisis. |
| 0:59.0 | Before I get into all of that, I should acknowledge that it may seem slightly strange for |
| 1:07.0 | an Edward Said Memorial Lecture to focus on an environmental topic. |
| 1:11.6 | Said, as some of you are aware, was not known as a tree hugger. |
| 1:17.6 | Descended from traders, artisans, and professionals. |
| 1:21.6 | He once described himself as an extreme case of an urban Palestinian |
| 1:25.6 | whose relationship to the land is basically metaphorical. |
| 1:31.3 | In after the last sky, Said's powerful meditation on the photographs of Jean Moore, |
| 1:38.4 | he explored the most intimate aspects of Palestinian lives, from hospitality to sports to home decor, the tiniest detail, |
| 1:47.6 | the placement of a photograph, the defiant posture of a child, provoked a torrent of insight |
| 1:54.4 | from Saeed. But when confronted with images of Palestinian farmers, tending to their flocks, working the fields. |
| 2:03.5 | This specificity evaporated. Which crops were being cultivated, the state of the soil, the state of the water supply, |
| 2:13.5 | mysteriously gone. Sayy confessed, I continue to perceive a population of poor suffering |
| 2:20.2 | occasionally colorful peasants, unchanged and collective, though he acknowledged that this |
| 2:25.8 | perception was basically mythic. If farming was another world for Edward Said, those who devoted their lives to issues like air and water pollution basically seemed to occupy another planet. |
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