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Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski | True Crime News & Commentary

Nancy Guthrie Case: The Sheriff's Hidden Record Changes Everything

Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski | True Crime News & Commentary

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🗓️ 27 March 2026

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

The case was always complicated. An 84-year-old woman abducted from her home in Catalina Foothills, her blood on the porch, ransom notes distributed to media, a backpack-wearing suspect captured on doorbell footage — and a multi-agency investigation under the national microscope from day one. What nobody anticipated was that the man running the investigation would become a story unto himself.

Sheriff Chris Nanos has maintained from the start that his department is handling this case properly. But over the past several weeks, a different picture has emerged. Documentation from his time with the El Paso Police Department reveals a history of suspensions and insubordination — a record he never disclosed to Pima County across 42 years. Under sworn testimony, he denied being suspended. When records contradicted him, his explanation shifted: he was only thinking about his Pima County tenure.

The deputies union, representing over 300 officers, voted unanimously no confidence and called for his immediate resignation. Pima County Supervisor Matt Heinz stated publicly that Nanos' entire tenure with Pima County "seems to be based on fraud." The Board of Supervisors has directed legal counsel to draft language requiring Nanos to report under oath. A recall effort is now underway, requiring more than 122,000 signatures by July 10.

And Nancy Guthrie is still missing.

Former FBI Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program Chief Robin Dreeke analyzes what Nanos' behavior — the selective memory under oath, the denial, the rapid compliance once removal became legally actionable, the silence following his deputies' rejection — actually signals in the context of an authority figure managing a constructed professional identity. This is evidentiary analysis, not speculation.

For listeners who have been tracking this case from the beginning, this episode addresses the question nobody at those press conferences is asking.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

This is Hidden Killers Live with Tony Brewski and Robin Dree.

0:07.0

All right, we got a lot to get there today, and it's your questions, and we got answers, again, because we're Radio Shack.

0:14.0

We bought the rights to it, and we're also selling AA batteries right back over here in case you need any. They're really overpriced and they're not going to last you very long, but the Radio Shack.

0:25.1

Anyway, we are here.

0:26.5

We're going to break down the latest in the Nancy Guthrie case.

0:29.8

It's becoming about the Sheriff Nanos case.

0:32.5

It's like two separate things at this point, but all intertwined.

0:36.2

So leave us your questions in the comment section for that,

0:39.2

and we're going to try and answer them live here during this discussion. And we'll also, of course,

0:46.2

continue the conversation off the year after the fact. And we're also going to be talking about the

0:50.1

ladies in the Kelsey Fitzsimmons case. Let's start out with Nancy Guthrie. You've been sending in the questions, not about the suspect, not about the evidence, but the man running

0:58.6

the investigation, how the sausage is made. And maybe because there's a problem at the sausage

1:03.6

factory, nobody's getting their sausages. Robin Drake is with us, as always, retired FBI special agency for the counterintelligence

1:12.9

behavioral analysis program.

1:14.5

This is fascinating.

1:15.9

I was, I was working on, um, a story about Nancy Guthrie just the other day.

1:22.6

And then this popped up into the ether of the 200 in some like 240 side of the number directly in front of me

1:31.0

to zero no confidence uh the union voting against him 60 some did not vote but there was not one

1:38.8

not a single one who said maybe he's just misunderstood.

1:47.7

You know, maybe we're like, I like him, but I don't know why.

1:52.0

Not one person voted in confidence.

1:54.0

I'm Sheriff Nato's.

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