Welcome to MK True Crime. I'm Ashley Merchant. I'm a criminal defense attorney out of Atlanta, Georgia.

Here's what's on the docket today. As of this taping on Thursday, February 12th, Nancy Guthrie,

the 84-year-old mother of today's show host Savannah Guthrie is still missing. A person of interest was

detained. They were released,

and new evidence has been found, including black gloves, and the ransom notes just keep on

coming. Mainly to TMZ, there's a lot to get to. And later, retired FBI special agent and co-host

of the best case, worst case podcast, Maureen O'Connell joins us to break down the investigation so far. Today, I am lucky to be joined by my co-host, Phil Holloway, criminal lawyer, ex-prosecutor, and former police officer. And Phil has been on the ground in Tucson, Arizona, bringing you the latest in the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie. So, Phil, let's start with you. Walk us through what you've seen

because I am dying to hear what it's like on the ground.

I've been out here able to go to all these locations

and get my head wrapped around what this investigation looks like,

at least from the outside.

And what I can tell you is that the investigation is,

it's focusing on two places, right?

Obviously, the area around Nancy Guthrie's house, which makes sense, but it's also

gravitating four or five miles away over to the area where Annie Guthrie and her husband

Tomaso live.

And just two days ago, I was out there and maybe it was three days ago, and the FBI had been there,

basically canvassing maybe a quarter mile, half mile radius around that home.

And I had the opportunity to speak to some neighbors who had the FBI in their house and in their yard.

And look, they told me that one of the things that the FBI seemed to be looking for was a phone.

And so, like, if the perpetrator had a phone in his, and I do believe it's a he, in his pocket or on his person,

that would explain why we now see law enforcement going back

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