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Welcome to the Naked Bible Podcast episode 59, Q and A number four.

I'm your layman, Trace Trickland, and he's the scholar, Dr. Michael Heiser.

Hey, Mike, how you doing this week?

Very good.

I'm anxious to get into the Q and A.

Okay, but we've got, I think, 10 or 11 questions, probably spaying over, what, seven,

eight people.

So why don't we just get to the first question?

All right.

Okay.

So, one question, or two questions actually is from Seth from Michigan.

Question one is, is there a dual relationship God has with the nations?

For one, He just snared at them, then raised up Israel to his own holy people, yet commissioned

them to spread his knowledge and worship the other nations.

But then we also see him involved in the nations such as we see in Daniel and Jeremiah

with Babylon and others both using them and judging them, lifting one up and putting

another down.

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