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Welcome to the Naked BiblePodcast, episode 350, Loving Loyalty and Believing Loyalty.

I'm the layman, Tray Strict, whether he's the scholar, Dr. Michael Heizer, hey Mike, what's going on?

Well, you know, we're getting close to Thanksgiving, which would normally be also getting close to

ETSSBL time, which of course, we're not going anywhere, true. No, no, you know, we've had it nipped

in the bud by COVID, but you know, they're still doing something we can talk about that a little

bit if you like. Yeah, absolutely. And aren't you speaking virtually or perzing the papers?

I am. I was asked by S. Joshua Swamidass, who is the author of the recent book, The Geneological

Adam and Eve. I think I've mentioned this before on the podcast, but I'm part of a panel that's

going to review his book, The Moderator for this is William Lane Craig, and it's going to go through

the American Academy of Religion. ETSS is also doing one of these panels on the same book. So

it's going to get a lot of attention at the meetings, even though they're virtual. And

for those who are maybe not familiar with the book, Josh is a PhD in genetics. He's also an MD.

And his thesis is that the genetic research, current cutting edge genetic research and statistical

genetics is not an obstacle to having a historical Adam and Eve, and that we would be ancestors of

them. Not to get there, he has to do one thing that's obvious, that genealogical relationships are

not the same as genetic relationships. You know, the Bible pursues only genealogical ancestry

because they're not geneticists. They don't know anything about genetics. But also he wants to

argue again that all of the genetic stuff for other human-hominated forms, that reflects

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