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The Naked Bible Podcast

Naked Bible 179: What is the New Apostolic Reformation?

The Naked Bible Podcast

Dr. Michael S. Heiser

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.84.7K Ratings

🗓️ 30 September 2017

⏱️ 87 minutes

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Summary

What is the New Apostolic Reformation, with Holly Pivec The New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) seems to quite clearly justify labeling it a movement or denomination. Millions of people around the world are part of its network of churches. However, many NAR leaders and advocates deny that it’s a denomination or movement. Many Christians who are attracted by NAR teachings and practices have no idea that something called the NAR even exists. For those aware of its influence and presence within Christianity, the NAR has branded itself as representing the return of authoritative apostles and prophets to the modern church, complete with miracles such as healing and raising the dead. On this episode, we talk to Holly Pivec, an authority on the NAR, to learn what it is, what its defining characteristics are, and how we should think about its teachings. NOTE: Shortly after our interview, Holly Pivec informed us that her statement about Michael Brown teaching at C. Peter Wagner’s school was inaccurate. Dr. Brown is the founder of FIRE School of Ministry in Charlotte, NC. The doctrinal statement for that school is located here and includes a statement on modern apostles and prophets. Holly Pivec resources: Blog: Spirit of Error Books: A New Apostolic Reformation?: A Biblical Response to a Worldwide Movement God's Super-Apostles: Encountering the Worldwide Prophets and Apostles Movement

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Welcome to the Naked Bible Podcast episode 179.

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What is the new Apostolic Reformation with Holly Pivic?

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I'm the layman, Trace Tricklin, and he's the scholar Dr. Michael Heizer.

0:37.7

Well Mike, I guess we're still here.

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We're way after this.

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Yes we are.

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So we are unfortunately still here, but happily still here, I guess.

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Yeah, I mean, think about that.

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We must be prophets.

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We must be prophets.

0:53.3

We are prophets.

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I don't know if that kind of goes hand in hand with what the topic of today's episode

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is, but I'm going to go ahead and claim that me and you might be some prophets.

1:03.9

Hey, you know, and we can even bolster that claim because now the new date for the world

1:09.8

ending is I think October 19.

1:12.7

So we get to do this all over again and again, validate our prophetic credentials.

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Boy, we are so smart.

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