From KCRW, I'm Kim Masters, and this is the business.

You have to be very clever in the way to shoot.

There's never at any point the word action.

You can't just expect to say action and for them to become the part.

As a filmmaker, you have to know how to work around them and around who they are.

Nadine Labaki has made films in Lebanon before, but nothing quite like Copernum.

For her newest movie, now in the short list for Best Foreign Language Film,

Labaki cast non-actors, many of them illiterate and impoverished,

to play children fighting for survival on the streets of Beirut.

Labaki tells us what drew her to the story of a boy who ends up suing his parents for giving

him life, and describes the scramble to get her cast members the paperwork they needed

to go to Cannes, where Copernum won the jury prize.

And she describes falling in love with film while growing up in war-torn Lebanon thanks to movies like Greece.

But first on the news banter, any questions? Go ahead and ask.

Stay tuned. It's the business from KCRW.

I am joined by my partner in banter.

Matt Bellany of the Hollywood Reporter.

Hello, Matt.

Hi there.

So the agony of CBS grinds on.

They had a town hall meeting this past week.

Joe Ainello, the CEO, who replaced Les Moon Vez.

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