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Nadine Hwang

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4.8 • 644 Ratings

🗓️ 1 January 2025

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

Today's episode is on the Spanish-Chinese pilot, diplomat, and concentration camp survivor Nadine Hwang. Join us to learn about Parisian lesbians, the skills of the ultimate modern women, and Nadine's war-time romance with her life-partner Nelly Mousset-Vos. Check out our website, where you can find our sources, as well as everything there is to know about Queer as Fact. If you enjoy our content, consider supporting us on Patreon, checking out our merch, and following us on Instagram, Tumblr and Bluesky. [Image: Black-and-white photo of Nadine Hwang amongst refugees arriving in Malmö, Sweden, April 1945. Still from the documentary Nelly & Nadine]

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Queer As Fact, the podcast bringing you queer history from around the world

0:03.8

and throughout time. I'm Alice. I'm Eli, and I'm Jasmine. And today we're talking about

0:08.1

the Spanish-Chinese diplomat and pilot Nadine Huang. Before we begin, I'd like to acknowledge the Bonarong-Wunurang people at the traditional

0:23.7

owners of the land on which we record this podcast, and pay my respects to their elders, past,

0:28.3

and present. They're the custodians of an oral history tradition far older than this

0:31.9

podcast. We have some content warnings for this episode. This episode will include discussions

0:36.2

of World War II, including descriptions of concentration camps and mentions of the Holocaust. It will include

0:41.4

discussions of historic racism, sexism and homophobia, and brief mentions of drug addiction and drug

0:46.7

trafficking. If any of that is something you don't want to hear, feel free to skip this episode

0:50.5

and check out our other content. A quick note before we get started talking about Nadine's life, obviously, as usual,

0:56.6

a note about sources.

0:57.9

It would be remiss of me not to mention the documentary Nellie and Nadine, which was made

1:02.0

by the Swedish director, Magnus Gerton, in 2022.

1:05.0

So Nellie was Nadine's life partner who will meet during this episode, and the documentary

1:09.7

focuses on the journey of

1:11.0

Nellie's granddaughter Sylvie Bianchi as she uncovers her grandmother's love story with

1:14.8

Nadine. Without this documentary, the story of Nadeen and Nellie would not have come to light,

1:19.5

and while I've also consulted some other primary sources, this documentary is the main source,

1:23.4

at least in English, that provides information about Nadine. So there's no published biography or anything like that.

1:28.8

I have a question.

1:29.7

Yeah.

1:30.2

I went on Nadine's Wikipedia page to try to figure out how to describe who Nadine was

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