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Folks, I don't know how we do it but we seem to get some extraordinary guests into the studio here

in New York. Today I'm privileged to sit with someone who lets me call him Tom but you may know him

as NT right. He is certainly one of the world's leading Bible scholars, someone whose work and

friendship. I've been very grateful for. He is also the chair of New Testament and early

Christianity at the school of divinity at the University of St Andrews and he's an Anglican

Bishop, Yadayyada, Yadayyada, NT right. How wonderful to have you here.

Thank you. Now the problem is I want to talk to you about everything. So let's start somewhere

specifically and then we can move on to the rest of the universe. I can't remember. I think you

were on the program a year or so ago when your biography of Paul came out. No, was it?

It was two years ago when the death of revolution began. I'd just come out.

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