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Music Two things have suffered from misunderstanding in the American religious context.

A lot of things have suffered from misunderstanding, but two things especially.

And they're really kind of crucial ideas in Christian thought and theology. One is conversion.

Most people think about conversion, Christian conversion as looking at the prospects that Christianity

lays before you, weighing your options and then making a decision. And the same goes

for evangelism. Much of evangelism efforts in American Christianity are built upon that idea of

conversion. Welcome back to issues, et cetera. It's time for part four of our series,

myths about Lutheranism. We'll take up two. Lutherans don't believe in conversion,

and Lutherans don't care about evangelism.

Pastor Brian Wolfmiller is our guest.

He's pastor of St. Paul and Jesus' Deaf Lutheran churches in Austin, Texas.

He posts theology on the YouTube channel Wolf Miller 1,

and he is author of several books, including Has American Christianity Failed?

Brian, welcome back. Thank you, Todd.

This first myth we're going to deal with here that Lutherans don't believe in conversion.

Where do you think it came from? Well, probably because when we compare Lutherans to the general

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