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9, 12, 10, 28, 2, 23. This is Deep State Radio. Coming to direct from our

Super Secret Studio in the third sub-basement of the Ministry of Snark in

Washington, D.C. and from other undisclosed locations across America and around the world.

Hello and welcome to another episode of the podcast. As you know, whenever we see a

book that we think you ought to read, we try to get the author or in this case one of

the co-editors in to talk about the book. This book is Myth America. Historians take on

the biggest legends and lies about our past. It could not be more timely given some

of the news we've had this week about disinformation and the sort of industrial production of it

at places like Fox. And we are very fortunate to be joined by Kevin Cruz, who's professor

of history and director of the Center for Collaborative History at Princeton University

who is the co-editor of this book, Welcome Kevin. Thanks for having me. I love this book

in part because sometimes I'm a historian, in part because I have this theory and we're

not going to get into my personal philosophies here. But my theory is half of everything

that we know that we believe to be true isn't true. And it's, you know, half is because

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