Welcome back to the Out of this World. I'm Jamie Hanshaw and joining me again for the second time is Clint.

How are you? That's the only name we have like Madonna or Cher or we have Clint now.

And he's been my pen pal for a long time, probably over a decade,

and he always drops the juiciest things from literature, and he's probably 20 years ahead of

most of the occult researchers that I've seen.

And I told him one day, I said, why don't you start your own channel?

Because you know so much, and I can't, there's no way I can possibly say all the things that you know in my own show. So I said, just get your own.

And I watched one of your videos for the first time. And I have to say, I was thoroughly entertained.

No, I'm serious. Like, if you want to go back in time to, you know, like the 90s or Y2K when conspiracy theories were juicy and popping off and you go to your dealer's house and you roll a fat one and you just start, you know, putting all of these conspiracy theories up, it is definitely a, uh a travel back to those days where, you know, you listen to

William Cooper and Jordan Maxwell and all the classics. And I know you're a student of William

Cooper and he's got a whole treasure trove of esoteric knowledge. So welcome to the show. How are you today?

Pretty good. I drink too much cappuccino.

Classic conspiracy schizzo. I mean, you've even got the one I want to believe molder poster, right? You've got the Jolly Rod here.

You've got the dark room with your sunglasses on.

I mean, what more do you expect from a conspiracy theorist, you know, THC, caffeine?

Well, it's conspiracy fact. It's not a theory. We're not operating on. Cooper said that he would not allow his audience to be deceived.

And that, you know, I try to use that same motto because we're working against a group of people that are masters of deception.

They don't believe in real magic.

Magic to them is the art of illusion.

And that the scenario that I'm trying to paint with these quotes that the book is trying to paint and that Cooper tried to paint is that

this group, this religious group, I'll just bust it out to you,

like I busted out to my friends when we're hanging out.

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