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Thirteen has been my lucky number for a while.

Like, it's always a sign of good things to come for me.

This is 13, a Taylor Swift fan podcast.

Breaking down every song every

Easter egg every era in every theory hosted by the biggest with these Nick

Adam Anna Cassie, Amy Nichols, and Lacey G.

Welcome to 13, a Taylor Swift fan podcast.

My name's Nick Adams.

I'm Anna, and I'm Amy.

And we're missing Lacey today but today we are

breaking down my tears ricoche. It is the fifth track on Taylor Swift's album, Folklore.

Track five guys. It's a big deal. Track five. It is a very big deal. This is, I'm going to tell you right now,

I'm going to talk for a very long time about this song. We all will. We all have multiple pages of notes. This is a very dense song to break down. There's a lot going on here and it's

track five. That means it's typically the most vulnerable song for Taylor. It means so much. It's where she's really bearing it all. And so here's a little bit of what Taylor said during the long pond studio sessions about what this song is actually about.

Where do we start?

I mean, to me, the whole thing starts with my tears ricoche.

Yeah, chronologically, that's the first thing.

I wrote that one alone, and it was, it's definitely, I think, one of the saddest songs on the album yeah I think

it's one of the best songs you've written all thing which is I think why you crowned it as a track five?

Yeah, picking a track five is sort of a pressurized decision, but I knew from day one this was probably going to be it.

It's kind of a song about karma. Yeah. It's a song

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