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The Mother Jones Podcast

My Secret Journey to the War America Can't Escape

The Mother Jones Podcast

Mother Jones

Elections, Politics, Scoops, Investigations, Journalism, News

4.51.1K Ratings

🗓️ 12 June 2019

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Introducing "Behind the Lines", a Mother Jones Podcast series featuring senior reporter Shane Bauer’s exclusive, on-the-ground reporting in Syria. A year in the making, this series contains never-before-heard audio from one of the 21st century’s bloodiest conflicts, including an interview with the first American woman charged with terrorism-related crimes for joining her husband in ISIS territory. Bauer takes listeners inside an abandoned ISIS prison; hunts for clues about a devastating US-led air strikes; and travels to a battlefront where a proxy battle between superpowers is fueled by oil and gas fields. Episode One goes  to the bombed-out city of Raqqa, the former ISIS stronghold, where forensics teams conduct the harrowing work of uncovering thousands of bodies from the rubble. The city was liberated in 2017 following an intensive four-month siege and bombardment by US-led forces as part of President Donald Trump’s aggressive escalation of the war against ISIS in Syria. By early 2018, when Bauer visited, as much as 80 percent of the city’s buildings had been destroyed or damaged; Amnesty International called it “the most destroyed city in modern times.” Bauer follows the heartbreaking daily routine of 16 rescuers with no more lives to save; now their grim task is retrieving bodies throughout the city.  In this episode, Bauer talks about why he embarked on this risky trip into Syria and discusses the shifting web of combatants that makes the war so difficult to comprehend. Our podcast series is being released at the same time as an in-depth package on MotherJones.com presenting Bauer’s in-depth report and riveting videos from behind the lines. For more, visit: motherjones.com/syria.

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0:00.0

This episode contains content that some listeners might find disturbing.

0:04.0

You know this song.

0:12.0

You probably belted it out at karaoke or in the car by yourself while no one's watching. You can find the backstreet boys anywhere, right?

0:27.0

Even in the most unlikely places, including here,

0:32.3

maybe the most unlikely place, in this car in northeast Syria, a sign that life

0:39.2

continues in the shadow of death.

0:49.0

This is the Mother Jones podcast. I'm Jamila King in New York. And this is a special three-part Mother Jones podcast series, behind the lines.

1:03.3

My colleague Shane Bowers exclusive on-the-ground investigation

1:07.1

into America's role in the Syrian conflict. Last year, Shane embarked on a reporting assignment like no other.

1:25.0

How's this check?

1:27.0

I'm in my hotel room.

1:29.0

In this series, Shane will take you along with him.

1:32.0

Across the border from Turkey into Iraq and from Iraq into Syria.

1:36.0

I crossed a river.

1:39.0

As he explores a civil war that has drawn American jihadists, anarchists, CIA agents,

1:47.2

and special forces to an arena with shifting allegiances, wary allies, and horrific civilian casualties.

1:55.0

But yeah, it's weird to be in this country, in this part of the country that's controlled by a militia.

2:06.1

It's controlled by the militia that is backed by United States.

2:10.3

Asking the questions, how and why, do Americans still know so little about what's happening here.

2:17.0

On future episodes of Behind the Lines, you'll hear Shane's never before aired interview

2:27.7

with the first American woman charged with terrorism-related crimes for joining her husband in ISIS territory.

2:35.0

And believe me, it's an incredible story.

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