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HerMoney with Jean Chatzky

“My male managers don’t respect me. How do I stand up for myself?”

HerMoney with Jean Chatzky

Jean Chatzky Her Money

Investing, Entrepreneurship, Business

4.81.3K Ratings

🗓️ 1 August 2025

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

As more companies push for a return to the office, one thing is clear: workplace etiquette has never felt murkier. What’s the right way to navigate a hybrid schedule, an in-person meeting full of “old-school” colleagues, or a toxic work environment that feels impossible to escape? In this special HerMoney Mailbag episode, Jean Chatzky is joined by Lizzie Post, great-great-granddaughter of Emily Post and co-author of the new book Emily Post’s Business Etiquette. Lizzie brings clarity to the confusion with thoughtful, modern advice on everything from salary negotiations to how to speak up in a room full of senior men. Together, they answer your real-world questions, including: How to take credit for your ideas without sounding arrogant What to say when you're being seen as "the daughter" instead of the professional Whether that shiny new job offer is worth the pay cut (or worth leaving your current one) How unlimited PTO really works (and if it’s too good to be true) If more financial confidence sounds good to you, then you might want to try… ⁠4-Week Coaching Program⁠: Identify and understand your spending, build a strategic plan, and take control of your money. ⁠6-Week Pre-Retirement Program⁠: We’ll help you prepare financially and emotionally for this exciting milestone. 📈⁠InvestingFixx⁠: Learn, connect, and start investing—your first month is completely free. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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But I think women tend to be encouraged to wait to be invited to participate in conversation.

0:09.0

And especially when it comes to business, as long as you aren't being rude about it, I would say, get in the fray.

0:16.0

Let yourself be a part of that. Don't wait to be invited. Say that great thought that you have. Use your

0:21.9

conversational skills, your awareness of the pattern of conversation and the flow of conversation

0:28.9

to insert yourself in the moments when it feels right.

0:33.9

Hey everyone, I'm Gene Chatsky and thank you so much for joining us today on Her Money.

0:39.5

We've got a very special mailbag episode with someone who quite literally wrote the book on how to handle yourself with confidence and class in the workplace.

0:50.3

I'm talking about Lizzie Post, great, great granddaughter of the legendary etiquette expert,

0:57.6

Emily Post.

0:58.9

Lizzie is the co-author of the brand new edition of Emily Post's business etiquette.

1:04.7

She's also the co-host of the awesome etiquette podcast, and she's here to help us navigate what can feel like a

1:13.3

totally new professional world, especially when so many of us are being asked or told to head

1:22.9

into the office without much clarity around what's expected anymore, even regarding what we can and

1:31.5

can't wear. You all stepped up and you sent us some really amazing questions about how to handle

1:38.4

work etiquette in 2025 from inserting yourself at an all-male strategy meeting to negotiating salaries to knowing when it's time to walk away from a toxic job.

1:51.9

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