Hi, I'm Willow Belden and you're listening to Out There, the podcast that explores big questions through intimate stories in the outdoors.

This episode is sponsored by Ecosia, a search engine dedicated to planting trees.

Whenever you do internet searches, a certain amount of ad revenue gets generated. And if you're using Ecosia instead of, say, Google, that ad revenue

goes toward tree planting. The company's J.C. Bingler says it's an easy way to make a very real

difference in the environment. If you used Ecosia three times a day for a whole year, then you

would be able to plant, I think, around 23 real trees.

That seems really good.

Like, that seems like a lot.

Yeah, it really is.

And that's even just if you use it three times a day,

which means that there would be, I don't know, space for using other search engines

or not being on the internet every single day.

To get started and plant your

first tree, just head to Ecosia.co.co slash out. That's E-C-O-S-I-A dot co-slash-out. So I once got a

fortune cookie that said, get your mind set.

Confidence will lead you on.

I still have that fortune in my wallet.

It lives in that little plastic window where most people keep their driver's licenses.

And something about it has always felt reassuring.

Like as long as I trust in my own abilities and allow my inner confidence to take

charge, I'll be okay. It's a sentiment we hear all the time, that confidence is your friend,

that you should take leaps of faith and try difficult things even when they scare you, that self-assuredness

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