Love now and love.

Love was stronger than anything.

And I love you more than anything.

What is love?

There's to love.

Love.

From the New York Times, I'm Anna Martin.

This is Modern Love. And today I'm talking to Stephanie

Gunning. Stephanie is the kind of person who gets things done. If taxes need to be paid, she's

paying them. If her kid needs a new backpack, she's buying two. And when her husband got depressed,

she was like, okay, no problem. We'll handle this too,

even when it got really bad. And there was a day when it did get really bad. It was their

nightmare scenario. But Stephanie, being Stephanie, got through that day and went to work the

next morning, like nothing happened. I wanted to talk to Stephanie about the moment when she finally

reached her own breaking point and what it's like for two people to love each other through

the worst of it.

Stephanie Gunning, welcome to Modern Love.

Well, thank you so much. It's a real pleasure to be here. Thanks for having me.

Of course.

Stephanie, I would love to hear your meet-cute story with your husband, Jonathan.

Absolutely. It really is, it's the kind of thing where if you read it, you'd think, you know,

I don't believe this story. Like, rewrite. Like, too cute. It's way too cute. No one's going to buy this. But it is, in fact, a true New York story. So I got married very young. I got married at 24. That marriage ended when I was 29. And it was the kind of dissolution of a marriage where you really just take stock of everything. And I started taking all kinds of, not risks. I mean, I don't want to make it sound like I was, you know, out there jumping out of planes or anything. I mean, it wasn't like that, but I thought maybe I'm, I felt like I didn't really know myself or I thought maybe I'm someone who, I don't know, camps. A time of reinvention. Yes. We turn to the outdoor sometimes and we're looking for guidance.

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