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The Binge Cases: U R NEXT

My Fugitive Dad | 4. The Ringer

The Binge Cases: U R NEXT

Sony Music

True Crime, Society & Culture, Documentary

4.04.4K Ratings

🗓️ 25 December 2023

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Tom was a scratch golfer. Good enough he could have gone pro. So why didn’t he? How did being a wanted man shape the seemingly perfect life he had? He ended up in the car business with a posse of car guys who adored him but could see he was a bit of fish out of water. When tragedy strikes, Tom makes a decision that will come back to haunt him. Subscribe to The Binge to get all episodes of Smoke Screen: My Fugitive Dad, ad-free right now. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Smoke Screen: My Fugitive Dad show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. A Neon Hum Media & Sony Music Entertainment production. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts and follow us @sonypodcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

The bench. So, Tom and Kathy decide, they are going to leave Florida, where Tom had the ability to play a golf year round

0:23.4

and move back to the Boston area to raise a family.

0:30.3

Dad was doing all of the semi-pro tours.

0:34.0

They both had jobs, lived in a really nice house.

0:37.0

I actually saw a photo of it for the first time last week,

0:41.0

and it was a pretty big sized ranch on some land.

0:45.0

I wonder how he was thinking about that decision at the time,

0:49.0

knowing that to be a professional athlete, he would be published in newspapers, he would be higher profile,

0:59.2

it just always seems like he finds a way over the course of his life to fly under the radar.

1:07.0

And that's something that I don't think I'd ever really thought about until you brought it up.

1:16.0

It's the early 80s. That's only a little over a decade after the crime.

1:22.0

And he would have been pretty visible. He sort of got to that point

1:26.2

where the next step would have been I'm going on these tours. I'm gonna be on

1:32.2

everybody's TV in the whole country.

1:35.0

Somebody might have recognized him.

1:37.0

Yeah.

1:38.0

Or like one of his high school friends being like, wait,

1:41.5

that's that guy I went to school with who went missing. He's a golfer now?

1:46.7

Finding Ted Conrad was John Elliot's mission. And could you imagine if he watched golf?

1:52.1

That would have, I mean, that would have been terrible

1:53.9

if that's how he'd caught him.

1:55.2

I mean, for me, as my dad's child,

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