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Welcome to episode 26 of Cold War Conversations in partnership with the Cold War Museum.

This is part two of my conversation with Professor Sergei Krushchev, the son of Nikita Khrushchev,

who led the Soviet Union from 1953 to 1964.

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In part two of this interview, we gain insight into Soviet thinking around the Cuban missile crisis.

We hear about the Soviet view of the building of the Berlin Wall, along with the 1961 Berlin Berlin Crisis when Soviet and American tanks were

toe to toe at Checkpoint Charlie. And lastly, we hear about Nikita Khrushchev's fall from power.

If you are a member of our Cold War Conversations Facebook discussion group, you would have had the opportunity to provide questions for Professor Krushchev. I've tried to include as many of these as I can, but apologies in advance if your questions didn't make the final cut. I want to talk about the 1960 U2 incident. Can you tell me what you

knew about that at the time? I knew everything because at that time I worked in the missile

designed bureau and we designed the cruise missiles that time and the spacecrafts.

So I was close to the military and I knew that they flew over our territory first in April, then in May.

And we waited when we went to be shot.

So when on the May 1st, my father went downstairs, he told, yeah, they flew second

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