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Welcome to Big Technology Podcast, a show for cool-headed, nuanced conversation of the tech world and beyond.

Our guest today is David Pogue.

He's the host of the Unsung Science podcast.

It's a great podcast.

You should check it out.

And he's also a correspondent on CBS Sunday morning.

And in his role as a correspondent there, he was aboard the Ocean Gate Titan in November 2022. Yes, the sub

that was going to explore the wreckage of the Titanic and itself imploded last week.

So today we're going to get into his experience aboard the sub. Of course, what happened to it.

And then we're going to go deeper into our discussion, the merits of risk and exploration.

David, so great to have you here. Welcome to the show. Thank you so much. So just to start off, how did you first

hear about this sub? Because, you know, it does strike me that so many people have, you know,

heard about it, but it was news to most of the world. So where did you first encounter it?

Stockton Rush, the now familiar name, the CEO of Ocean Gate and the designer of the world. So where did you first encounter it? Stockton Rush, the now familiar name, the CEO of Ocean Gate and the designer of the sub,

was a fan of our show. And he sent over an invitation to our producers that said we could

accommodate three of you on our support ship for one of our nine-day expeditions,

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