I've started a new show where I have conversations with the greatest living founders.

That show is called David Senra, and it will be on a separate podcast feed from founders.

So it's very important that you follow David Senra on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, or wherever you're listening to this, so you don't miss future episodes.

The first two episodes were Daniel Act, the founder of Spotify and Michael Dell.

This episode is with Brad Jacobs. I find

Brad Jacobs very fascinating, not only because he started eight separate billion-dollar companies,

but also because of his infectious energy and enthusiasm for business building and money-making.

He was kind enough to invite me to his house, and that is where we recorded this conversation.

I'm going to post our entire conversation on this feed so you know what the new show is like. I hope you

enjoy the conversation. And please don't forget to follow the new show, David's Center, now,

so you don't miss future episodes. And by the way, nothing is changing with founders. I'm still

doing episodes every week and we'll work on founders until I die. I'm ready when you are, man. I'm in the zone. I'm in the zone, man. I hope we start with this. I love your energy. This is what I always tell people when, you know, I did the episode in your book, right? And since then, thousands, and this is not an exaggeration, thousands of people have sent me messages.

But what I try to explain to people? They're like, well, what's so different about Brad? I was like, well, first of all, how long do you have? Second of all, he's got the best energy and the most energy of any person I've ever been around. So, like, I really appreciate you taking the time and agreeing to do this. One of my favorite things is your affinity and relationship that you had.

You had a bunch of mentors, but one of your most important ones, you taking the time and agreeing to do this. One of my favorite things is your affinity and relationship that you had.

You had a bunch of mentors, but one of your most important one that you mentioned, I think, four times in the book, is Ludwig Jesselson.

You have a list of maxims in the very beginning of the book that you learned from other people.

The maximum that you listed for him was get the major trend right.

So if you could just talk about your relationship with him and what he meant to you,

I think that's a perfect place to start.

He meant a lot.

So Mr. Jettelson, I never called him Ludwig.

Mr. Jettison, he was significantly older than me and much more accomplished than me.

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