Hi everybody on the heels of having had Judea Pearl who's a world-renowned AI researcher.

I've got another of those AI geeky luminaries.

Today I've got Dr Dr Gary Marcus with me first I'll say

hello how you doing Gary great to see you and honored to appear right after

you in a pearl who's you know amazing he's unbelievable I mean I couldn't believe that we connected so you are a science you're an author you're an entrepreneur you are apparently possibly the youngest

professor emeritus from NYU you are the founder and

CEO of robust AI and was the founder and CEO of a company that was acquired a few years ago by Uber geometric

intelligence. Let me list not your edited books but the books that you

either authored or co-authored. The most recent one is rebooting AI, building artificial

intelligence we can trust with Ernest Davis. Guitar Zero, the new musician and

the science of learning. We'll discuss whether I have any hope of learning the violin and becoming a virtuoso.

Clouge, is that how you pronounce it? Clouge?

People differ about that, but that's fine. I would say Clouge.

Clouge, okay?

The haphazard construction of the human mind.

Then we've got the birth of the mind, how a tiny number of genes creates the complexities of human thought and your first book, The Algebraic

mind, integrating Connectionism and Cognitive Science.

I was very excited to see the word Connectionism because it brought me back to my days as a

doctoral student where I had the hope of maybe using connectionist models to

study consumer decision-making. You have published papers in a very broad range of disciplines. As I was

preparing for our chat I went to, of course Google Scholar and I was, I so loved the fact that you know

you're not one of those staying your lane guys that only

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