You're a successful, very successful entrepreneur, best-selling author.

What achievement are you most proud?

The fact that now at 48 years old,

there is a substantial amount of human beings that walk around the

earth that are asked what's it really like to work for Gary or what's he

really like and that I know that 93.7% of them have incredibly good things to say

and that is by far my biggest accomplished professional.

Was there of a point where you considered yourself a success or is that an ongoing evolving journey always?

Yeah, I think I decided I was success probably when I was 10. I played at reverse, I think, in hindsight. I kind of had this really early framework of, I think I figured out that school doesn't matter and that being nice and being good at something does.

I've never thought of it as success.

Like I don't think today like I'm a success.

I kind of feel like I've always felt that I was a success. I think that's really

good mothering to be frank and I think that I think the luck of the draw of

humility as a DNA tree.

Not to be in conflict to conviction and competitiveness

and I think, you know, it's a funny mix.

But honestly, I've never thought that I've made it or I've never thought in the terms of success

successful people never often do. Is that true? Yeah, yeah, it's cool.

Yeah, it's cool. Makes sense. But I sat next to your parents I think for the lunch. Yes. Very humble, very lovely people. Yes, thank you. They, do you know if they ever considered you? Because they must have. You must have done something where they thought my boy.

Yeah actually you know it's funny I'm gonna go run and ask them right now actually I'm

not even kidding I don't think I've ever asked them like what was the moment

and they may say when I did the Conan O'Brien show, that was wild.

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