Hello and welcome, sentimental garbage. The podcast where we talk about the culture we love,

the society sometimes makes us feel ashamed of. My name is Caroline and I'm writing it up

as Inventive and Confident. Joining me is the girl who will never be

Jello, Jessica. I will always be Jello. I'm Jello. Are you a Crembrule? No, no, no, no. Crembrule.

Crembrule. Crembrule could never be Jello. No, that's not my tagline. My tagline is

Jessica Pan born to be Jello. I've never had a guest in all like 150 episodes of

this podcast dispute the tagline that I have bestowed upon them and I welcome

this correction. Yeah. People have been letting me get away with stuff for too long.

And not anymore. It stops today. It stops today. Jess, you're one of my most, I

would say, formidable former guests because you came on a few years ago to do

Sweet Valley High, which is a legendary episode. And as I mentioned to you before

we started taping, the episode people come up to me to say like, I'm a real fan of

the podcast. I've been listening to Sweet Valley High with Jess Pan. I listened to

that trashy episode. I like real shit. I've listened to the Jess Pan episode. And

then I remember you were so good and I was like, got to get Jess Pan back on. And I

asked you back on, you were like, listen, I'm having a child. I think you're

probably typing from labor. You're probably not for a while. And I was like, fine.

And then you started DMing me. So I'm ready to come back on the podcast now. Here's

some suggestions. Total silence. I was just sending, which is sending things like

matchbox 20, no reply three weeks later, say by the bell, nothing three weeks later.

And I actually, it heard it first, but then I started to really enjoy it. Like I

felt like we were going to do it forever. I know I was looking forward to that too,

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