Mutually Assured Derangement

The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

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🗓️ 14 October 2021

⏱️ 103 minutes

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Summary

In light of the reaction to his call for anti-Trump conservatives to form a third party, Jonah invites Michael Brendan Dougherty onto The Remnant to discuss the potential benefits and drawbacks of such an approach. Things don’t entirely go as planned, as their conversation swiftly moves beyond that into the broader strangeness of contemporary politics and the conservative movement. With the American people increasingly defecting from the norms of constitutional government, what can be done to prevent our institutions from collapsing? Show Notes: - Michael’s author page at National Review - My Father Left Me Ireland, Michael’s recent book - Jonah’s uncontroversial column - Michael’s response - Charlie Cooke’s response - Dan McLaughlin’s response - The Wednesday G-File - Trump urges Republicans not to vote - Bill Kristol: “What About Joe?” - The Remnant with George Will - Remember the Obamacons? - Yuval Levin on nationalism and exceptionalism - Stalin’s War, by Sean McMeekin - Macron’s plan to reindustrialize France - Ross Douthat: “How Conservatives Can Reshape Education” - Charlie Kirk at his worst - Joe Rogan debates Sanjay Gupta - The Merrick Garland letter - The National School Boards Association letter - The Daily Signal’s bathroom story - The latest Dispatch Podcast - Norse mythology - David Harsanyi debates Sohrab Ahmari Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Oh
0:14.2	Ladies and gentlemen
0:16.5	Can I please have your attention
0:18.5	Thank you
0:27.5	Pretty Star listeners, this is Jonah Gover host of the Remnant Podcast brought to you by the dispatch and dispatch media come check out our stuff
0:33.5	I got a long 3000 plus word
0:38.1	member only
0:40.1	G-File about this third party stuff and everybody at NR
0:43.5	Get in their hackles up about it and Mona Sharon coming at me from the other direction
0:48.8	You can check that out if you like and
0:51.7	To that end I full disclosure. I don't think I've told Michael this but our guest today. I originally asked
1:01.3	Charles Cook who was the first person at NR to respond to my third party column
1:07.7	And he couldn't do it because he was traveling and then I saw that Michael had written one too
1:13.9	So I asked Michael Brendan Dordey who's our guest today to do it and I
1:19.9	Apologized to Charlie by text saying
1:22.5	Sorry about this but once again an Irishman has stolen a job that rightfully belongs to an Englishman so
1:30.8	Michael Brendan Dordey of National Review. What are you with senior writer?
1:33.7	Some what senior writer? National view online. I think is the official title. It's
1:40.6	It's amazing how little such things matter
1:47.7	We try not to tell that to young staffers because you know when you're starting on a life of titles a huge deal and then
1:54.7	later it
1:56.7	What is my title again, but
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