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Moonshots with Peter Diamandis

Mustafa Suleyman: The AGI Race Is Fake, Building Safe Superintelligence & the $1M Agentic Economy | EP #216

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis

PHD Ventures

Business

4.8605 Ratings

🗓️ 16 December 2025

⏱️ 85 minutes

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Get access to metatrends 10+ years before anyone else - https://qr.diamandis.com/metatrends   Mustafa Suleyman is the CEO of Microsoft AI Dave Blundin is the founder & GP of Link Ventures Dr. Alexander Wissner-Gross is a computer scientist and founder of Reified – My companies: Apply to Dave's and my new fund:https://qr.diamandis.com/linkventureslanding      Go to Blitzy to book a free demo and start building today: https://qr.diamandis.com/blitzy   Grab dinner with MOONSHOT listeners: https://moonshots.dnnr.io/ _ Connect with Peter: X Instagram Connect with Dave: X LinkedIn Connect with Alex Website LinkedIn X Email Connect with Mustafa X Linkedin Listen to MOONSHOTS: Apple YouTube – *Recorded on December 5th, 2025 *The views expressed by me and all guests are personal opinions and do not constitute Financial, Medical, or Legal advice. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

What's the mandate from Satya? Is it win AGI?

0:03.0

I don't think there's really a winning of AGI. I'm not sure there's a race.

0:07.0

One of the OGs of the AI world, Mustafa Salimand is the CEO now of Microsoft AI.

0:13.0

He spent more than a decade at the forefront of this industry before we even had gotten to feel it in the past couple of years now.

0:22.6

Fundamentally, the transition that we're making is from a world of operating systems,

0:28.6

search engines, apps and browsers to a world of agents and companions.

0:34.6

We're all going as fast as we possibly can, but a race implies

0:39.0

it's zero sum. It implies that there's a finish line. And it's just like not quite the right

0:44.0

metaphor. As we know, technologies and science and knowledge proliferates everywhere,

0:48.6

all it runs at all scales, basically simultaneously. Are you spending a lot of your energy,

0:54.0

compute human power on safety?

0:57.0

Yeah, no, I mean...

1:00.0

Now that's the Moonshot, ladies and gentlemen.

1:05.4

Everybody, welcome to Moonshots. I'm here with DB2 and AWG and Mustafa Soleiman, the co-founder of Deep Mind, Inflection AI, and now the

1:14.8

CEO of Microsoft AI. Welcome, my friend. Good to have you here. Thank you for making time for us.

1:21.7

Thanks for having me. Yeah, I'm excited to do this. Yeah, it's, you know, what you've been building

1:26.8

with Satya is amazing. And it's hard to believe that Microsoft is 50 years old. And it's reinvented itself so many times. And for the last five years, it's been, you know, at the top of the game, the most valuable company in the world, 250,000 employees, and for what I understand, 10,000

1:46.8

employees now under you. So a few, you know, important questions I want to open with. First,

1:54.2

some broad context. You're building inside a massive company with huge resources, probably arguably more than almost

2:02.9

everybody else. And the question I have is, what's the end goal here? You've got all the

2:11.1

hyperscalers sort of providing open access to AI, and they're doing sort of a land grab,

2:16.7

trying to get as many users as possible.

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