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Talk Easy with Sam Fragoso

Musician Buffy Sainte-Marie’s Path to Home

Talk Easy with Sam Fragoso

Higher Ground

Tv & Film, Film Interviews, Society & Culture

4.81.5K Ratings

🗓️ 21 November 2021

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

This week, we’re joined by legendary singer-songwriter, Indigenous activist, and educator Buffy Sainte-Marie. She reflects on growing up to adoptive parents in Massachusetts (4:00), the value of encouraging creativity in childhood (7:12), reuniting with her Cree family at eighteen (10:37), singing for peers in college (14:36), and the alternative conflict resolution messaging behind her early 1960s protest songs (16:46).

On the back-half, she discusses the performance that got her blacklisted by Presidents Johnson and Nixon (30:45), some of the issues facing Native American people in North America (36:50), her inventive core curriculum for students (40:50), and what it meant to be the first Indigenous person to win an Oscar in 1983, and recognized in the Academy Museum today (45:40).

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0:00.0

Pushkin. This is talk easy. I'm San Francisco, so welcome to the show. Today I am joined by the legendary Buffy St Marie. For more than half a century

0:47.3

Buffy has been telling her story through songs, although not just her story but the story of her people.

0:55.0

Born on a Cree reserve in Saskatchewan Canada, she was removed from her family at a young age.

1:01.0

She doesn't know when exactly. She grew up with her adoptive

1:05.4

family in Massachusetts. She managed as well as anyone could given the conditions.

1:11.6

We get into all that early in this talk.

1:15.0

Come time for college, she attends the University of Massachusetts, where she earned double degrees

1:20.7

in teaching and Oriental philosophy.

1:23.8

As she left school for New York City,

1:26.2

she would inject those two majors

1:28.4

into her songwriting.

1:30.2

Part educational, part philosophical,

1:33.0

Buffy began playing music that no one had ever quite heard before.

1:37.0

By the early 60s, she was traveling the world singing folk songs and concert halls and coffee houses like the gas-like cafe alongside Bob Dylan, Leonard

1:48.0

Cohen, and Joanie Mitchell. She did all this by the age of 25. From there, her career has taken many shapes, with music always at the center.

1:58.0

She wrote love songs, protest songs, spiritual songs, a combination of which got her blacklisted by President's

2:06.2

Nixon and Johnson.

2:08.1

She won an Academy Award in 1982 for co-writing the song Up Where we belong from the film an officer and a gentleman

2:16.0

Making her the first indigenous person to win an Oscar

2:19.7

She had a five-year run as a cast member on Sesame Street,

2:23.5

where she was the first person to breastfeed a child

2:25.8

on national television.

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