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Music Supervisor Susan Jacobs & The Story of Malcolm McLaren After "Pistol"

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Music, Society & Culture, Arts

4.32K Ratings

🗓️ 15 July 2022

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Susan Jacobs won the first Emmy ever awarded for music supervision. Hosts Jim DeRogatis and Greg Kot talk with Jacobs about her work on "Big Little Lies" and other projects. They also talk with author Paul Gorman about his biography of Malcolm McLaren, the legendary manager of the Sex Pistols.

 

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Featured Songs:

Joe Tex, "A Woman's Hands," A Woman's Hands (Single), Dial, 1967

Sex Pistols, "Anarchy In the U.K.," Never Mind the Bullocks, Here's the Sex Pistols, Virgin, 1977

Sex Pistols, "God Save the Queen," Never Mind the Bullocks, Here's the Sex Pistols, Virgin, 1977

Sex Pistols, "Pretty Vacant," Never Mind the Bullocks, Here's the Sex Pistols, Virgin, 1977

Bow Wow Wow, "I Want Candy," The Last of the Mohicans, RCA, 1982

Malcolm McLaren, "Buffalo Gals," Duck Rock, Virgin, 1983

Bill Lee, "Nola-Vocals," She's Gotta Have It - Original Motion Picture Soundtrack, Antilles, 1991

Public Image Ltd, "Public Image," Public Image: First Issue, Virgin, 1978

Marvin Hamlisch, "Theme From The Swimmer (Send for Me in Summer) / Big Splash," The Swimmer, CBS, 1968

Leon Bridges, "River," Coming Home, Columbia, 2015

Led Zeppelin, "Whole Lotta Love," Led Zeppelin II, Atlantic, 1969

Led Zeppelin, "What Is and What Should Never Be," Led Zeppelin II, Atlantic, 1969

Led Zeppelin, "Thank You," Led Zeppelin II, Atlantic, 1969

Charles Bradley, "Victim of Love (feat. Menahan Street Band)," Victim of Love, Daptone, 2013

Michael Kiwanuka, "Cold Little Heart," Love & Hate, Interscope, 2016

Sylvan Esso, "Come Down," Sylvan Esso, Partisan, 2014

Chicago, "25 or 6 to 4," Chicago, Columbia, 1970

Norman Greenbaum, "Spirit in the Sky," Spirit in the Sky, Reprise, 1969

Dire Straits, "Romeo and Juliet," Making Movies, Warner Bros., 1980

Electric Light Orchestra, "10538 Overture," The Electric Light Orchestra, United Artists, 1971

Simon & Garfunkel, "Mrs. Robinson," The Graduate, Columbia Masterworks, 1968

Harry Nilsson, "Everybody's Talkin'," Aerial Ballet, RCA Victor, 1968

The Acid, "Tumbling Lights," Liminal, Infectious Music, 2014

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0:00.0

Hey Sound Opinions listeners, if you support us on Patreon, you get to listen to our podcast

0:05.8

ad-free on Patreon.

0:29.2

You're listening to Sound Opinions and this week where we're visiting our interview with

0:36.1

music supervisor Susan Jacobs. I'm Jim D. Rigatis and I'm Greg Kot. But first we're back to our

0:42.3

conversation about Malcolm McLaren. We first aired our interview with Paul Gorman about his

0:48.2

biography of Malcolm McLaren in 2020. Today we're revisiting it because of Danny Boyle's new show

0:55.6

Pistol featuring McLaren as a prominent character and while the show isn't exactly a critics pick,

1:02.9

it's about 56% on Rotten Tomatoes Greg. Paul's book is a hit with at least these two critics.

1:12.5

Let's go back to that interview for a deeper look at the man behind the myth Malcolm McLaren.

1:25.6

We want to welcome British journalist Paul Gorman to the show. His new book is called The Life

1:52.1

and Times of Malcolm McLaren. Greg, I think it has the distinction of being the heaviest book we

1:58.0

have ever talked about on Sound Opinions. It is quite an accomplishment, Paul, and cyclopedic,

2:04.3

but gripping. Welcome to the show. Well, it's good to be here. Well, thank you. You know,

2:09.2

why don't we start at the obvious place? Malcolm McLaren, why is he worth 860 odd pages of biography?

2:18.4

You know, because it's a name, let's face it, that many people won't even know unless they're

2:23.6

of a certain age, knowing him as the spiky-haired redhead who steered the steered in quotes,

2:30.0

the career of the Sex Bistels. Right. What drew to this subject? Well, because I didn't think that

2:37.0

really his contribution to pop culture and the wider culture had been recognized in the right way.

2:44.4

I think he was partially to blame for this because, you know, he dubbed himself in the Sex

2:49.2

Bistels biopic The Embedler. So he kind of painted himself into a corner as this kind of caricature

2:57.1

manager, evil manager and manipulator of the media and the people who were his charges. When

3:04.9

in fact, that was a position he took. You know, I got to know him later in life and he was quite

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