Music from Martha Wainwright, Australian campaigner Grace Tame. Dame Kate Bingham former chair of the Vaccine Task Force.

Woman's Hour

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🗓️ 21 September 2021

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

A live performance from Martha Wainwright who'll be talking to Emma Barnett about her first album in more than five years and going out on the road again.

Ruth London from Fuel Poverty Action talks about the effect of energy price rises on women and children.

And as Covid booster jabs are being offered across the UK this week and 12 to 15 year olds are receiving the vaccines at school we speak to Dame Kate Bingham She began the work when she who was appointed chair of the Vaccine Task Force at the beginning of the pandemic by Boris Johnson and reported directly to him. She's now returned to her day job as a venture capitalist investing in new drugs and talks talks to Emma about female leadership, the ethics of booster rollout and whether unvaccinated care-workers should be able to continue working.

Plus we hear from Australian of the Year 2021, campaigner Grace Tame. A survivor of sexual abuse she fought to overturn the law in Tasmania which stopped people speaking out in their own name even if their attacker had been found guilty. Her latest campaign is to change Australia’s consent and grooming laws.

Presenter Emma Barnett Producer Beverley Purcell Photo credit; Gaelle Leroyer

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0:00.0	BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts Hello, I'm Emma Barnett and welcome
0:07.2	to Woman's R from BBC Radio 4. Hello and welcome to today's programme.
0:12.4	With booster jabs for the over 50s and vulnerable having just begun and schools vaccinating
0:17.1	12-year-olds, who better to have with me today than the woman who coordinated this country's
0:22.4	vaccine rollout? Dame Kate Bingham is my first guest this morning, the former chair of
0:27.1	the UK Vaccine Task Force, and as Boris Johnson, currently stateside getting ready for his
0:32.1	first time in the Oval Office's Prime Minister for a meeting with President Biden, is defiant
0:37.2	in his defence of the UK's booster vaccine programme despite hundreds of millions people
0:41.9	worldwide not having a single dose. It's worth remembering that millions in this country
0:47.4	also haven't had a single dose by choice. The latest high profile example being that of
0:53.1	the strictly come dancing professional dancers that report out today in the sun claims there
0:57.2	are now three dancers who haven't been jabs. But my question to you then is how has your
1:03.1	relationship changed with colleagues, friends and family who have chosen not to get vaccinated
1:09.5	at all? I've spoken to you before on this programme about how you convince those that you love
1:14.1	in your life and care about to get jabs. What strategies of work we exchange tips we heard from
1:20.1	a behavioural psychologist on this matter? But moving away from trying to convince, which I
1:25.4	have to say to summarise that conversation, is a very difficult thing to do, almost now unimpossible
1:30.2	it seems. What are you doing about those in your life who aren't getting jabs, whether you work
1:35.6	with them, live with them, related to them, friendship groups? Are you still seeing them? Are you
1:41.6	talking to them? Has it changed things? Do you respect their decision? Are you trying to just
1:46.4	live with it? Are you scared about seeing them as we go into the winter? Are you scared about them
1:50.8	seeing older people in your life or vulnerable people in your life? Text me at Women's Hour on 84844,
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