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Enjoy. Chapter 3, Music from Chaos.

Orson Martin was a writer in the late 1800s.

For one particular writing project, he set out to discover an interview a giant of his day

and asked the secret behind his impact on the world.

One of Martin's first questions was about this remarkable man's quote, untiring energy and phenomenal endurance.

The response, this man had worked an average of 20 hours per day for the past 15 years straight.

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